Disgraceful Sectarianism Scenes Live from Ibrox

There is a great article in my Sunday paper today by Stuart Cosgrove who writes for the National, The title of his article is “George Square carnage must herald the end for anti-Catholic bigotry”.
He explains all about the deflection tactics used by the defenders of the mob. He also explains about the ‘deceptive’ use of the word sectarianism a catch all concept that masks anti-Irish racism and anti-Catholic bigotry. He goes on to say that several third-sector organisations broke ranks and dropped the use of the word sectarianism.

Nearing the end of the article is a small paragraph from Rod Petrie and shamefully imo is still using the deflection tactic by saying “Those responsible for sectarian singing, for vandalism, may attach themselves to Football, but cannot be considered Football fans.

Cosgrove comes back to say these words are from an age old deflection manual that seeks to blame society by some magical logic, asserts that those rioting were not really football fans at all. And with humour Cosgrove said sorry Rod but I hazard a wild guess they weren’t on their way to Scottish opera. Brilliant piece, I thought I would try and share a wee bit of with you all.

We need to either get rid of the SFA or as the government mentioned there could be a new regulator who would come in to oversee the SFA but don’t hold your breath. But I was glad to see this article today as it keeps it front of stage still.
 
Wee humza called them out on tv again
today

He said: “As justice secretary I don’t make an apology for calling it out and calling it what it is.

“I don’t blame Rangers Football Club and in fact, believe it or not, have a very constructive relationship with Rangers Football Club.

“What we saw last weekend on the streets of Glasgow was the most disgraceful and shameful display of anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism I’ve ever seen.

“If it had been anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic or against black people there would have been universal condemnation

“We saw anti-Catholic hatred, anti-Irish bigotry and not a syllable of condemnation, for example, from the Conservatives whereas there would have been universal condemnation if it had just about any other
community

“I’m not here to defend so-called fans who took part in that kind of behaviour. Let’s not deflect away from what we say on May 15th which was simply unacceptable.”

👏👏👏👏👏
 
There is a great article in my Sunday paper today by Stuart Cosgrove who writes for the National, The title of his article is “George Square carnage must herald the end for anti-Catholic bigotry”.
He explains all about the deflection tactics used by the defenders of the mob. He also explains about the ‘deceptive’ use of the word sectarianism a catch all concept that masks anti-Irish racism and anti-Catholic bigotry. He goes on to say that several third-sector organisations broke ranks and dropped the use of the word sectarianism.

Nearing the end of the article is a small paragraph from Rod Petrie and shamefully imo is still using the deflection tactic by saying “Those responsible for sectarian singing, for vandalism, may attach themselves to Football, but cannot be considered Football fans.

Cosgrove comes back to say these words are from an age old deflection manual that seeks to blame society by some magical logic, asserts that those rioting were not really football fans at all. And with humour Cosgrove said sorry Rod but I hazard a wild guess they weren’t on their way to Scottish opera. Brilliant piece, I thought I would try and share a wee bit of with you all.

We need to either get rid of the SFA or as the government mentioned there could be a new regulator who would come in to oversee the SFA but don’t hold your breath. But I was glad to see this article today as it keeps it front of stage still.
Think this would be it

Stuart Cosgrove: George Square carnage must herald the end for anti-Catholic bigotry

THIS week we reached a real ‘Tipping Point’ a much over-used term, which was famously coined by Malcolm Gladwell, a staff writer at the New Yorker, in a best-selling book analysing the collapse in crime rates in New York.

Gladwell argued that much like a virus, an idea can take a grip on society, replicating until it comes to dominate popular opinion.

Last weekend Rangers fans, celebrating their team’s remarkable season, brought carnage to Glasgow. George Square became a no-go area where mostly young drunken men, waged battle with the police and front-line workers. The square was left like a rubbish tip and a sporting achievement laid buried beneath the toxic weight of thuggery.

In a blistering feature in the Scotsman under the headline “Rangers, the ‘superiority syndrome’ and anti-Catholic bigotry,” the veteran sportswriter Andrew Smith effectively “called out” failings that have festered over decades. No matter how virulent social media debates become it often takes traditional forms of journalism to edge the idea closer to its tipping point.

First and foremost, Smith was insistent that a deeply unpleasant anti-Catholic and anti-Irish attitude lurked within the guts of this social disorder. Paramedics have attested that they were spat on and subjected to bigoted abuse based largely on their dark green uniforms.

Several themes have coalesced around the George Square fiasco. One is the concept of false equivalence, where defenders of the mob look for other examples of public events to deflect responsibility. An obvious contender on this occasion was the anti-deportation protests in Kenmure Street in Pollokshields where residents blocked the departure of a Border Force van deporting two locals in a “hostile environment” swoop.

We should not waste much time on this faked-up argument. One was an act of social disobedience to protect people from deportation and when that aim was achieved the crowd dispersed peacefully with no significant violence. The locals who had dispensed water and food to protestors, cleaned up the aftermath. George Square was nothing of the sort.

Another issue that began to unravel at the seams this week, is the deceptive use of the word “sectarianism” a catch-all concept that masks anti-Irish racism and anti-Catholic bigotry. This week several third-sector organisations broke ranks and dropped the use of the word sectarianism. A time has come when this lazy generalisation is no longer precise enough.

Sports journalism is riddled with lazy get-out clauses, but time has been called on that too. Celtic fans were not involved in either of the two outrages at George Square, so roping them into the debate is no more than obfuscating nonsense.

Another barrier to progress in football is tiresome “whataboutery” a habit which has been exaggerated by binary social media. The term first emerged on the award-winning news and opinion portal Slugger O’Toole, which was set up to take a critical look at politics in Ireland and Britain. One of the forum’s rules is that if a politician, or organisation from whichever community engages in unacceptable practice then it is the members of that community who have to face up to their moral responsibility.

This week has been significant. There has clearly been a breach in the wall of silence that traditionally shields Rangers. No one denies that the club has long since abandoned its infamous anti-Catholic signing policy, but has it done enough to root out prejudice among its loyal and loyalist customer-base?

These discussions have been part of football on the web for a long time, but such precise condemnation of anti-Irish and anti-Catholic bigotry from journalists is still relatively uncommon.

Another embedded problem is still to be addressed, one that exists at the very top of football. There remains a deep-seated perception in the minds of many fans that Rangers are treated with kid gloves and yet a perception from within Ibrox that they are victims.

Resolving this is not simple and has been needlessly clouded by a lack of past transparency, not least the so-called “five-way agreement” that allowed Rangers to re-enter the league after liquidation, against the rules and regulations of the game at that time.

Applying sanctions against Rangers for fan behaviour in George Square will be challenging, leaving the Scottish Football Association with their preferred strategy – to let things blow over. This may be superficially appealing but fairer and more transparent application of rules and more importantly responsibilities are essential to eliminate the distrust that exists among many fans.

The Scottish Football Association is in effect a self-regulatory private body with none of the external public scrutiny that an organisation of its national importance needs

Rod Petrie, the SFA President said last week: “Those responsible for sectarian singing, for vandalism and for inflicting physical damage may attach themselves to football but cannot be considered football fans.”

Sadly, these are words from an age-old deflection manual that seeks to blame society and then by some magical logic, asserts that those rioting were not really football fans at all? Sorry Rod, I’d hazard a wild guess they weren’t on their way to Scottish Opera.

I AM passionate about Scottish football and know enough about its history to confidently claim that the fans of St Mirren, Dundee United, Livingston, Raith Rovers, Dunfermline and my own club St Johnstone have never been involved in mass social disorder, which gives the lie to another comforting cliché of Scottish sports journalism – “every club has its idiots”.

The problem is that they don’t and certainly not to that extent.

Rangers chose a different deflection, claiming they had been denied the prospect of a title celebration inside Ibrox by the Scottish Government. Although this played well to a section of the club’s support who despise the Scottish Government, it was not great strategic thinking. During a global health pandemic, with no crowds at major football grounds, the request by Rangers began from the premise that they were special and different. It reflects a certain entitlement that Rangers would do well to shake off.

In castigating Scottish football and its failures, it is also important that we bring perspective to the debate too. The worst excesses of anti-Catholic bigotry are in the past. Street level attacks on churches are grotesque and rightly resisted but the structural and institutional discrimination that faced the Irish diaspora in the 20th century is now mainly in retreat.

Few employers operate discriminatory hiring policies and those that do are stuck in the past, usually with failing businesses. Attacks on Catholics and crimes aggravated by hate are still all too common but not as prevalent as attacks on other ethnic minorities. Scotland has a relatively open housing market free of covenants that would prevent a catholic buying a house, and professional positions within the media, law and politics are now more open and accessible.

Anger at what we have witnessed should not be allowed to obscure huge social progress. It is modernity that exposes bigotry for what it really is - the last dying gasps of Scotland’s past.

We have finally reached that tipping point.
 
Think this would be it

Stuart Cosgrove: George Square carnage must herald the end for anti-Catholic bigotry

THIS week we reached a real ‘Tipping Point’ a much over-used term, which was famously coined by Malcolm Gladwell, a staff writer at the New Yorker, in a best-selling book analysing the collapse in crime rates in New York.

Gladwell argued that much like a virus, an idea can take a grip on society, replicating until it comes to dominate popular opinion.

Last weekend Rangers fans, celebrating their team’s remarkable season, brought carnage to Glasgow. George Square became a no-go area where mostly young drunken men, waged battle with the police and front-line workers. The square was left like a rubbish tip and a sporting achievement laid buried beneath the toxic weight of thuggery.

In a blistering feature in the Scotsman under the headline “Rangers, the ‘superiority syndrome’ and anti-Catholic bigotry,” the veteran sportswriter Andrew Smith effectively “called out” failings that have festered over decades. No matter how virulent social media debates become it often takes traditional forms of journalism to edge the idea closer to its tipping point.

First and foremost, Smith was insistent that a deeply unpleasant anti-Catholic and anti-Irish attitude lurked within the guts of this social disorder. Paramedics have attested that they were spat on and subjected to bigoted abuse based largely on their dark green uniforms.

Several themes have coalesced around the George Square fiasco. One is the concept of false equivalence, where defenders of the mob look for other examples of public events to deflect responsibility. An obvious contender on this occasion was the anti-deportation protests in Kenmure Street in Pollokshields where residents blocked the departure of a Border Force van deporting two locals in a “hostile environment” swoop.

We should not waste much time on this faked-up argument. One was an act of social disobedience to protect people from deportation and when that aim was achieved the crowd dispersed peacefully with no significant violence. The locals who had dispensed water and food to protestors, cleaned up the aftermath. George Square was nothing of the sort.

Another issue that began to unravel at the seams this week, is the deceptive use of the word “sectarianism” a catch-all concept that masks anti-Irish racism and anti-Catholic bigotry. This week several third-sector organisations broke ranks and dropped the use of the word sectarianism. A time has come when this lazy generalisation is no longer precise enough.

Sports journalism is riddled with lazy get-out clauses, but time has been called on that too. Celtic fans were not involved in either of the two outrages at George Square, so roping them into the debate is no more than obfuscating nonsense.

Another barrier to progress in football is tiresome “whataboutery” a habit which has been exaggerated by binary social media. The term first emerged on the award-winning news and opinion portal Slugger O’Toole, which was set up to take a critical look at politics in Ireland and Britain. One of the forum’s rules is that if a politician, or organisation from whichever community engages in unacceptable practice then it is the members of that community who have to face up to their moral responsibility.

This week has been significant. There has clearly been a breach in the wall of silence that traditionally shields Rangers. No one denies that the club has long since abandoned its infamous anti-Catholic signing policy, but has it done enough to root out prejudice among its loyal and loyalist customer-base?

These discussions have been part of football on the web for a long time, but such precise condemnation of anti-Irish and anti-Catholic bigotry from journalists is still relatively uncommon.

Another embedded problem is still to be addressed, one that exists at the very top of football. There remains a deep-seated perception in the minds of many fans that Rangers are treated with kid gloves and yet a perception from within Ibrox that they are victims.

Resolving this is not simple and has been needlessly clouded by a lack of past transparency, not least the so-called “five-way agreement” that allowed Rangers to re-enter the league after liquidation, against the rules and regulations of the game at that time.

Applying sanctions against Rangers for fan behaviour in George Square will be challenging, leaving the Scottish Football Association with their preferred strategy – to let things blow over. This may be superficially appealing but fairer and more transparent application of rules and more importantly responsibilities are essential to eliminate the distrust that exists among many fans.

The Scottish Football Association is in effect a self-regulatory private body with none of the external public scrutiny that an organisation of its national importance needs

Rod Petrie, the SFA President said last week: “Those responsible for sectarian singing, for vandalism and for inflicting physical damage may attach themselves to football but cannot be considered football fans.”

Sadly, these are words from an age-old deflection manual that seeks to blame society and then by some magical logic, asserts that those rioting were not really football fans at all? Sorry Rod, I’d hazard a wild guess they weren’t on their way to Scottish Opera.

I AM passionate about Scottish football and know enough about its history to confidently claim that the fans of St Mirren, Dundee United, Livingston, Raith Rovers, Dunfermline and my own club St Johnstone have never been involved in mass social disorder, which gives the lie to another comforting cliché of Scottish sports journalism – “every club has its idiots”.

The problem is that they don’t and certainly not to that extent.

Rangers chose a different deflection, claiming they had been denied the prospect of a title celebration inside Ibrox by the Scottish Government. Although this played well to a section of the club’s support who despise the Scottish Government, it was not great strategic thinking. During a global health pandemic, with no crowds at major football grounds, the request by Rangers began from the premise that they were special and different. It reflects a certain entitlement that Rangers would do well to shake off.

In castigating Scottish football and its failures, it is also important that we bring perspective to the debate too. The worst excesses of anti-Catholic bigotry are in the past. Street level attacks on churches are grotesque and rightly resisted but the structural and institutional discrimination that faced the Irish diaspora in the 20th century is now mainly in retreat.

Few employers operate discriminatory hiring policies and those that do are stuck in the past, usually with failing businesses. Attacks on Catholics and crimes aggravated by hate are still all too common but not as prevalent as attacks on other ethnic minorities. Scotland has a relatively open housing market free of covenants that would prevent a catholic buying a house, and professional positions within the media, law and politics are now more open and accessible.

Anger at what we have witnessed should not be allowed to obscure huge social progress. It is modernity that exposes bigotry for what it really is - the last dying gasps of Scotland’s past.

We have finally reached that tipping point.
Thanks Kelly for getting whole article that’s brilliant HH 🍀🍀
 
Wee humza called them out on tv again
today

He said: “As justice secretary I don’t make an apology for calling it out and calling it what it is.

“I don’t blame Rangers Football Club and in fact, believe it or not, have a very constructive relationship with Rangers Football Club.

“What we saw last weekend on the streets of Glasgow was the most disgraceful and shameful display of anti-Catholic bigotry and anti-Irish racism I’ve ever seen.

“If it had been anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic or against black people there would have been universal condemnation

“We saw anti-Catholic hatred, anti-Irish bigotry and not a syllable of condemnation, for example, from the Conservatives whereas there would have been universal condemnation if it had just about any other
community

“I’m not here to defend so-called fans who took part in that kind of behaviour. Let’s not deflect away from what we say on May 15th which was simply unacceptable.”

👏👏👏👏👏
Humza should see what the klan think of him if he seems to think he has a great relationship with sevco.
 
So Police Scotland say there was no criminality re the Hun players singing FTP.....what they don’t say is that FTP wasn’t sung by them

It’s been suggested.....and let me paraphrase here.....that they based their no criminality verdict on the understanding that the players in question were at a private function and not in a public forum.....whereby anyone could take offence.....

In plain speak they were all singing the sectarian add-ons and as they were at a private function and were all at it no one could have been offended

Apparently that’s the word.....Police Scotland need to be asked the direct question “ Was FTP sung by those players in any of the videos in question”

Who’s going to ask the question?
 
Humza should see what the klan think of him if he seems to think he has a great relationship with sevco.
..................

I’m sure he’s well aware of what the Klan are saying.....there’s a wee game being played here.....I just hope the Huns Board follow through with their threat of litigation against “certain individuals” but I doubt it.....it’s bully boy tactics once again imo.....imagine if questions were being asked under oath with the threat of perjury at play.....wouldn’t it be nice to see those with something to hide squirm in a court room with the damning evidence available and the whole world watching.....bring it on I say...
 
Well St Johnstone just completed the double defeating the biggest team in Britain on the way. CD has won double the honours of the manager of Britains greatest ever team. This makes StJ the biggest team in Britain and Perth the capital of world football. Sevco are the biggest....fraud ever perpetrated upon football.
Hes won more trophies in one season that Stevie G has in 3 🤣🤣🤣
 

Are there no boundary,s for these peepul..
Disgusting behaviour from one of their own,some parents have to listen to their boy being called all sorts of Homophobic names ,and this is from the peepul who said in 2018..
Everyone and anyone..

HH
 
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