REFEREES REVEAL WHO THEY SUPPORT.

[dungloe67]

Quite recently on BT Sports on Scottish Football Extra they were talking about Scottish referees.
This was before Beatongate. They were asking Should referees disclose what team they support before they become a referee,as they do in England?. Sally McCoist the gardener immediately said To go down that road would be ridiculous.
I wonder why. Teams like Motherwell, Hamilton, Partick Thistle and St. Mirren would be surprised to find out that they have more fans that they thought.
When Celtic have their meeting with the SFA, SPFL or the rest of the clubs, they should bring up the proposal that REFEREES MUST DISCLOSE WHO THEY SUPPORT. If clubs vote down that proposal, then you have to ask WHY.

 

[Prague67Bhoy]

The issue with this idea is that it is as easy to state Baillieston Juniors as it is to offer a more honest answer.

 

[Lubos left peg]

Quite simply, if the referees are asked to disclose their teams they will just lie.

 

[50 Shades of Green]

The only refs that would lose out if they had to declare an allegiance would be the Celtic supporting ones ????????

 

[Spherical Planet]

Quite simply, if the referees are asked to disclose their teams they will just lie.

Because if we look at TV pundits and analysts as a case study, then St Mirren are disproportionately the best supported team in the country.

No doubt, Partick Thistle would be the club of choice for referees, even though they inhabit the Lanarkshire triangle.

 

[Lemon]

The only refs that would lose out if they had to declare an allegiance would be the Celtic supporting ones ????????

Is that one then? ?sorry if I am exaggerating.

 

[Ray]

The issue with this idea is that it is as easy to state Baillieston Juniors as it is to offer a more honest answer.

Partick Thistle are in for a shock !

 

[Ray]

Quite recently on BT Sports on Scottish Football Extra they were talking about Scottish referees.
This was before Beatongate. They were asking Should referees disclose what team they support before they become a referee,as they do in England?. Sally McCoist the gardener immediately said To go down that road would be ridiculous.
I wonder why. Teams like Motherwell, Hamilton, Partick Thistle and St. Mirren would be surprised to find out that they have more fans that they thought.
When Celtic have their meeting with the SFA, SPFL or the rest of the clubs, they should bring up the proposal that REFEREES MUST DISCLOSE WHO THEY SUPPORT. If clubs vote down that proposal, then you have to ask WHY.

Up here they are to scared to be honest unlike down south, don’t know why they bother asking these non-entities on tv /radio, could not care about them , no need to ask who they support,!!!!!hh

 

[TheGreatOne]

As much as that would be preferred, can you imagine fans here in Scotland if they knew? Any poor decision would no doubt be linked back to what team they support.

And as others have said, they’d just lie.

 

[patmeech]

beaton is the new Mcluskey now we have alleged threats and the ridiculous pantomime at ayr yesterday more chance nixon was innocent of watergate.

 

[Lubos left peg]

As much as that would be preferred, can you imagine fans here in Scotland if they knew? Any poor decision would no doubt be linked back to what team they support.

And as others have said, they’d just lie.

English refs can't officiate matches of the teams they support. If it was the same in Scotland then it wouldn't matter about decisions against your team because at least you would know it wasn't biased, just shitty offiaciting....but yes, they would just lie...well they would have to wouldn't they, if they told the truth we would be hard pressed to find one of the bastards to officiate a hun game ??

 

[Lubos left peg]

We could ask the English and Irish FA could we borrow some refs I suppose. Which one do you think would get the biggest reaction from fans in media in Scotland ??

 

[TET]

With all the data analysis that goes on in sport, a list of errors by referees should be catalogued.

Segregated into critical mistakes and errors

Thats way you could sift through data to see which teams got the worst errors versus most lenient refereeing against them and see if its consistent over time.

Also referee specific to see if they have any trends that make them unsuitable for certain matches. I think unconscious bias has a huge part to play in the psychology of refereeing.

Take me for instance if I was a ref I would be trying my best to be fair. But I probably have a degree of bias even when im trying to be fair.

Now that unconcious biad might be very high in people who have been immersed in a specific culture. Throw into the melting pots the fact that Rangers and Sevco probably have a higher degree of sympathy form other club supporters as well as having the biggest demographic of overt support due to the long standing cultural bias in Scotland, then I think the statistics would show that over time, Celtic gets more honest mistakes against them and Sevco get more honest mistakes for them than any other team in the country.

This may actaully be the same in all countries with few numbers of clubs dominating the support base.

A better system should be that all top league referees should be eufa grade and drawn out of the hat each season to become referee in certain country for say 4 year spells at time.

That way any unconscious bias in minimised and then the stats would highlight the rotten refs the ones who seem to have certain tendecies and those who have outright issues with certain teams.

If it all irons itself out over a season then the stats would support that.

I genuinely beleive these ststas must be collected by somebody presently but perhaps they are never revealed because a bent system is easier to manipulate.

 

[Prague67Bhoy]

We could ask the English and Irish FA could we borrow some refs I suppose. Which one do you think would get the biggest reaction from fans in media in Scotland ??

We could ask the English and Irish FA could we borrow some refs I suppose. Which one do you think would get the biggest reaction from fans in media in Scotland ??

That is not a bad shout. Think of it as a form of educational Erasmus programme. Referee-exchange! It would quickly highlight the gulf in standards as well as remove the stench of corruption.

 

[Lubos left peg]

That is not a bad shout. Think of it as a form of educational Erasmus programme. Referee-exchange! It would quickly highlight the gulf in standards as well as remove the stench of corruption.

Can you remember the ref strike?? We had foreign refs come in...the ref strike quickly ended because the fucking muppets from the LRA realised how bad they were made to look by proper unbiased professional referees.

 

[Theverdict1]

The issue with this idea is that it is as easy to state Baillieston Juniors as it is to offer a more honest answer.

Chuck Young the St Mirren fan scenario springs to mind. Jabba the Hut, Airdrie fan another. They would lie. Cheating to win is part of the DNA. Why be truthful when asked?

We need to ensure that even when they cheat we can still do them. It’s shite but that’s the bottom line.

 

[Lemon]

Chuck Young the St Mirren fan scenario springs to mind. Jabba the Hut, Airdrie fan another. They would lie. Cheating to win is part of the DNA. Why be truthful when asked?

We need to ensure that even when they cheat we can still do them. It’s shite but that’s the bottom line.

The old team cheated for years and did us over. We need to be on their case at every minute of every day to ensure that they don't get away with it again.

 

[_Neil_]

Partick Thistle are in for a shock !

They may have to join the English league if there isn't be an eligible referee up here.

 

[Theverdict1]

The old team cheated for years and did us over. We need to be on their case at every minute of every day to ensure that they don't get away with it again.

I agree. Every fucking cheating decision we need to shout about. Every time.

 

[_Neil_]

Chuck Young the St Mirren fan scenario springs to mind. Jabba the Hut, Airdrie fan another. They would lie. Cheating to win is part of the DNA. Why be truthful when asked?

We need to ensure that even when they cheat we can still do them. It’s shite but that’s the bottom line.

Truth is as alien to them as they are to us. Their whole raison d'etre is headed by a glib and shameless liar and tax cheat...coming after tax cheating that killed the previous ipox dwellers.