Sevco v Champions at Asbestosdome, Sun 7-Apr-24 at noon. MIB=Beaton VAR=Walsh

[50 Shades of Green]

How did souter get injured? Ten Bob says it was a shining Charlie coin.

It was an og mate.... Goldson jumping with his elbows up (cause thats how ye jump says John Claude Van Clement) and battered him one...

 

[Jinkybhoy]

Not a single thing that happened was a surprise to me but the tin lid was Clement claiming the moral victory to hear this from the manager of a team with no moral compass whatsoever was just a joke. They do nothing but throw themselves to the ground grabbing the ball at every opportunity while a blue nose brother stands back and allows it. Simple fact is that if we win next six games we are the champions again. Hows that for a moral victory.

 

[Lubos left peg]

Last month when we where not doing great there was Celtic fans claiming that the board wanted rangers to win league to keep the old firm brand alive we needs better refs definitely but the abuse they get from fans on forums and social media is a disgrace (I was frustrated as anyone when they got awarded penalty) we never got 3 points because we defended badly and not because a ref wanted us to lose or draw mate ….

I still 100% believe the Celtic board wouldn't see it as a bad thing if Sevco won the league for the sake of the "old firm" brand. I could be wrong but that's my opinion. I just can't think of any other reason why our club stood still and waited for Sevco to catch up with us. I also can't see any other reason why the board didn't back Rodgers in the tranfer windows.
As for not taking 3 points because we defended badly....nonsense. Celtic, IMO, we're poor yesterday. We couldn't string 3 or 4 passes together. The scum bullied us in midfield. Our defence had to contend with long balls and diving all match. The defence conceded but, for the pressure they were put under, they did well......if you want to talk about not taking 3 points...and look at the facts of the match. If between them, Beaton and Walsh, they actually watched the full VAR footage. They would have seen AJ win the ball before Silva took his tumble. And we would have won 3-2, possibly. But we didn't because Beaton and Walsh are a pair a fucking cheats. Go read Celtic by Numbers "A pattern of Assistance".....or remain in your ignorant bliss. Its up to you how you support Celtic.

 

[Lubos left peg]

And going on about the refs still. And how they effected the match...the challenge on Iwata that led to their chopped of goal, was going on all match. Our players were constantly being fouled with Beaton ignoring it. Thank fuck Walsh chose to do his job properly in some parts....he reverted to type for their penalty...but had he woke up with his Beaton head on, we wouldn't have got a pen and the foul on Iwata would have been ignored.
Goldhun slipped and fell on the ball at the edge of their box. Maeda would have nicked it and been clear through on goal. For some inexplicable reason, Beaton gave them the foul. It should have been a foul and a red card to the hun.

 

[Espiritosanto]

How did souter get injured? Ten Bob says it was a shining Charlie coin.

Gold hun at a corner fucked him in his thick dome…

 

[tommybhoy8881]

I still 100% believe the Celtic board wouldn't see it as a bad thing if Sevco won the league for the sake of the "old firm" brand. I could be wrong but that's my opinion. I just can't think of any other reason why our club stood still and waited for Sevco to catch up with us. I also can't see any other reason why the board didn't back Rodgers in the tranfer windows.
As for not taking 3 points because we defended badly....nonsense. Celtic, IMO, we're poor yesterday. We couldn't string 3 or 4 passes together. The scum bullied us in midfield. Our defence had to contend with long balls and diving all match. The defence conceded but, for the pressure they were put under, they did well......if you want to talk about not taking 3 points...and look at the facts of the match. If between them, Beaton and Walsh, they actually watched the full VAR footage. They would have seen AJ win the ball before Silva took his tumble. And we would have won 3-2, possibly. But we didn't because Beaton and Walsh are a pair a fucking cheats. Go read Celtic by Numbers "A pattern of Assistance".....or remain in your ignorant bliss. Its up to you how you support Celtic.

The 2 rangers goals where bad defending

I still 100% believe the Celtic board wouldn't see it as a bad thing if Sevco won the league for the sake of the "old firm" brand. I could be wrong but that's my opinion. I just can't think of any other reason why our club stood still and waited for Sevco to catch up with us. I also can't see any other reason why the board didn't back Rodgers in the tranfer windows.
As for not taking 3 points because we defended badly....nonsense. Celtic, IMO, were poor yesterday. We couldn't string 3 or 4 passes together. The scum bullied us in midfield. Our defence had to contend with long balls and diving all match. The defence conceded but, for the pressure they were put under, they did well......if you want to talk about not taking 3 points...and look at the facts of the match. If between them, Beaton and Walsh, they actually watched the full VAR footage. They would have seen AJ win the ball before Silva took his tumble. And we would have won 3-2, possibly. But we didn't because Beaton and Walsh are a pair a fucking cheats. Go read Celtic by Numbers "A pattern of Assistance".....or remain in your ignorant bliss. It’s up to you how you support Celtic.

mate the board don’t want them to win league and to lose out on 50 million but your right the board want us to win league on the cheap as that’s been possible to do past 10 years but now they willl have to spend….we never played good second half but the 2 rangers goals are defensive errors and I never praised Beaton but I don’t think he cheated …that silva is a wee wanker but when you watch on var it looks worse (if it was cheating Beaton would have gave penalty straight away and not booked for diving) if var cheated they wouldn’t have called off the rangers goal …Kuhns yellow wasn’t a yellow ….we never won yesterday because that mob played better than us 2nd half and we made few mistakes and never buried our chances ….as a support we have all these excuses and conspiracy theories but sometimes the answer is just more simple

 

[Lubos left peg]

The 2 rangers goals where bad defending

mate the board don’t want them to win league and to lose out on 50 million but your right the board want us to win league on the cheap as that’s been possible to do past 10 years but now they willl have to spend….we never played good second half but the 2 rangers goals are defensive errors and I never praised Beaton but I don’t think he cheated …that silva is a wee wanker but when you watch on var it looks worse (if it was cheating Beaton would have gave penalty straight away and not booked for diving) if var cheated they wouldn’t have called off the rangers goal …Kuhns yellow wasn’t a yellow ….we never won yesterday because that mob played better than us 2nd half and we made few mistakes and never buried our chances ….as a support we have all these excuses and conspiracy theories but sometimes the answer is just more simple

It's not excuses or conspiracy theories anymore Tommy. Cmon man, open your eyes. There is stats and actual, see with your own eyes, evidence to back up the "pattern of Assistance" (Celticbynumbers)

The refs were under the spotlight yesterday, hilariously, Beatons "fuck you Celtic" appointment worked in our favour in some parts. And by that I mean, Goldhun has gotten away with those handballs for the last 2 seasons. If there was anyway the MiBs could have done it again, they would have. Beaton also watched Iwata being fouled, the same sort of foul he was allowing all over the park against Celtic....but again, there was no way, under the scrutiny they were under, that they could have let the goal stand. But they still managed to play a massive part in the outcome.

Celtic weren't great yesterday. But we still went in at half time 2-0 and the scum hadn't really troubled us. Then the diver wins a penalty, that wasn't a penalty and all of a sudden they have their tails up and the match changes. Yes, we could have defended better and saw the game out, but we didn't. And due to the refs, once again having a massive say in the match, we only take a point....ah, the old adage " if we are good enough, the refs shouldn't matter" bullshit line will be trotted out. But that's not fair on the players. The refs shouldn't dictate the outcome of a match...and yesterday, they did.
But if you don't want to see that then that's fine.
What I would say, is that it's the pockets of fans like you, all around the country, that will ensure that there will never be any meaningful change in the Scottish game...I don't mean that to be an insult. How you support the game is up to you. But all clubs need all fans on board to make changes in our sport. The huns don't want it, the SFA don't want it....and as long as there are fans who refuse to see what's happening and saying things like "conspiracy theory" are out there. Change won't happen.

 

[tommybhoy8881]

It's not excuses or conspiracy theories anymore Tommy. Cmon man, open your eyes. There is stats and actual, see with your own eyes, evidence to back up the "pattern of Assistance" (Celticbynumbers)

The refs were under the spotlight yesterday, hilariously, Beatons "fuck you Celtic" appointment worked in our favour in some parts. And by that I mean, Goldhun has gotten away with those handballs for the last 2 seasons. If there was anyway the MiBs could have done it again, they would have. Beaton also watched Iwata being fouled, the same sort of foul he was allowing all over the park against Celtic....but again, there was no way, under the scrutiny they were under, that they could have let the goal stand. But they still managed to play a massive part in the outcome.

Celtic weren't great yesterday. But we still went in at half time 2-0 and the scum hadn't really troubled us. Then the diver wins a penalty, that wasn't a penalty and all of a sudden they have their tails up and the match changes. Yes, we could have defended better and saw the game out, but we didn't. And due to the refs, once again having a massive say in the match, we only take a point....ah, the old adage " if we are good enough, the refs shouldn't matter" bullshit line will be trotted out. But that's not fair on the players. The refs shouldn't dictate the outcome of a match...and yesterday, they did.
But if you don't want to see that then that's fine.
What I would say, is that it's the pockets of fans like you, all around the country, that will ensure that there will never be any meaningful change in the Scottish game...I don't mean that to be an insult. How you support the game is up to you. But all clubs need all fans on board to make changes in our sport. The huns don't want it, the SFA don't want it....and as long as there are fans who refuse to see what's happening and saying things like "conspiracy theory" are out there. Change won't happen.

I know we defo defo needs changes in the sfa and also a new breed of refs or even hire foreign refs (depending on the costs) I think the sfa are wankers too mate and I’m not a fans of refs either but I try and not get worked up about them and to attack them (unless I think it’s 100 percent cheating during a game) anyway mate draw wasn’t worse result and let them get beat off Dundee on wed night and we will hammer st Mirren Saturday

 

[Espiritosanto]

It's not excuses or conspiracy theories anymore Tommy. Cmon man, open your eyes. There is stats and actual, see with your own eyes, evidence to back up the "pattern of Assistance" (Celticbynumbers)

The refs were under the spotlight yesterday, hilariously, Beatons "fuck you Celtic" appointment worked in our favour in some parts. And by that I mean, Goldhun has gotten away with those handballs for the last 2 seasons. If there was anyway the MiBs could have done it again, they would have. Beaton also watched Iwata being fouled, the same sort of foul he was allowing all over the park against Celtic....but again, there was no way, under the scrutiny they were under, that they could have let the goal stand. But they still managed to play a massive part in the outcome.

Celtic weren't great yesterday. But we still went in at half time 2-0 and the scum hadn't really troubled us. Then the diver wins a penalty, that wasn't a penalty and all of a sudden they have their tails up and the match changes. Yes, we could have defended better and saw the game out, but we didn't. And due to the refs, once again having a massive say in the match, we only take a point....ah, the old adage " if we are good enough, the refs shouldn't matter" bullshit line will be trotted out. But that's not fair on the players. The refs shouldn't dictate the outcome of a match...and yesterday, they did.
But if you don't want to see that then that's fine.
What I would say, is that it's the pockets of fans like you, all around the country, that will ensure that there will never be any meaningful change in the Scottish game...I don't mean that to be an insult. How you support the game is up to you. But all clubs need all fans on board to make changes in our sport. The huns don't want it, the SFA don't want it....and as long as there are fans who refuse to see what's happening and saying things like "conspiracy theory" are out there. Change won't happen.

The refs a durty rat bastard Lubo there’s no glossing over that,he gets told to look at the var screen if he’s looking at what we are being shown and then gives a penalty he’s a cheating fraud,,the foul on iwata is three yards away from him it’s a shoe in foul but because they’re breaking he gets excited and goes with it,,your correct yesterday about us not stringing three passes together but we were constantly being fouled with no free kick giving whereas the hunz were getting fouls for absolute nonsense 23 for them??10 against!!!but our defending not by defenders but midfielder,wingers,front guys when we need to batten down the hatches is fuckin shoddy mate,the two goals they get and the one chopped off are Livingston,Ross county level defending,McGregor gives a crazy ball across the middle,but when the ball comes back to sima mcgregor and scales turn there backs at the shot!!!third ones just a wee guy that’s no used to defending or closing down???we didn’t need three forwards on at 90 minutes that’s down to Rodgers,,,

 

[Bridie Bhoy]

I don't believe our board want sevco to win the league. But I really do think that they want to just finish ahead of them and no more. No matter how much they deny it, and no matter how much our fans hate it, their business model is too reliant on the Old Firm brand. They want to be the better of the 2 sides but not destroy them completely.

As they see European football as a cash cow and see no point in investing an extra few £million on more proven players as it does not guarantee succes (more cash) then they'd rather squirrel it away in the bank and get bigger personal bonuses for themselves. Their insistance on only buying certain types of cheap inexperienced players with potential only works if you have an entire coaching and recruitment team onboard, and a side that doesn't play must win matches every single week as these youngsters will make errors and drop you points.

There is no denying that we played poorly in the second half as it was our turn to face the terrible conditions. But I did not see sevco getting a breakthrough except from a setpiece (again, because our defending can be poor) or a Tavpen. The refereeing team duly obliged by gifting them the latter.

Maybe our fanbase did have a set of (aye) ready made excuses about the officials we were too eager to sieze. But that is because of such a negative history we have with so many of them, but Beaton in particular. The SFA appointing Beaton to this match was an unnecessary STFU powerplay aimed directly at Celtic & Rodgers very publicly telling us to pipe down and shuffle up to the back of the bus.

Which our club duly did! We celebrated Rodgers being found guilty as charged and getting a touchline ban as though it was a victory, and then sucked up to Beaton before the match instead of creating hell about it. No other footballing association would have made that appointment at that time as they knew the ref could be (or at least be accused of being) compromised. But they were so hell bent on putting us in our place they did it anyway. They also knew their staunch lickspittle friends in the media would go all out with their cock-eyed propaganda when needed to close ranks and make Timmy look foolish if/when the controversy happened.

Celtic have been weak for many years now and allowed the Beaton situation to continue to such an extent that he rightly feels he is untouchable. Sadly, there is a conveyor belt of similar minded younger refs follow-following him so this situation is not going to magically improve in the future.

 

[Richybhoy]

Jim Farry, Hugh Dallas, Dougie McDonald.
Every team in Scotland has had bizarre decisions go against or for them.
I can’t think of a single time a shocking decision has gone against either Deidco/Sevco. Plenty times for but never against.
You only have to look at the red/yellow cards and penalties they concede in Europe and compare those stats to the stats in games reffed by Sevco minded MIBs
Lubos right, it’s all in the numbers. The pattern forming numbers cannot be denied.
Beaton and Walsh influenced the outcome of that game.

 

[Magnificent 7]

Ref watch is just about to view the decisions on sky sports news....let's see what they say.

 

[Espiritosanto]

Ref watch is just about to view the decisions on sky sports news....let's see what they say.

Al be shocked if he says it’s not a pen????

 

[Magnificent 7]

Ref watch is just about to view the decisions on sky sports news....let's see what they say.

No surprise they take the easy option of saying both were penalties pretty much what I expected from them.
No real mention of Silva embarrasing antics but incredibly say CCV should have been booked for kicking the ball away and subsequently sent off for some imaginary foul later in the game. WTF
The expert panel eh ??

 

[50 Shades of Green]

No surprise they take the easy option of saying both were penalties pretty much what I expected from them.
No real mention of Silva embarrasing antics but incredibly say CCV should have been booked for kicking the ball away and subsequently sent off for some imaginary foul later in the game. WTF
The expert panel eh ??

Must admit I was surprised when CCV wasn't booked for that, and Taylor for a tackle a while later...

Also why wasn't Goldelbows booked at the pen and why wasn't Dessers booked for going into the crowd when celebrating his imaginary goal.. Zombies spilled on to the trackside at this point and no action taken.. And imho Lawrence should also have got booked when he took out Iwata 2yrds fae the ref who needed a guy sitting in a studio miles away to show him... And has anyone managed to find footage of all the fouls Kuhn committed before Beaton finally booked him.

Beaton last week had a decision overturned and got stick for it... To my mind the only thing he got right yesterday was the booking of the zombie diver... But he then went back on it after being shown selective footage by a VAR offical employed by the home team

 

[Espiritosanto]

Al be shocked if he says it’s not a pen????

There you go not shocked in the slightest!!!

 

[50 Shades of Green]

And whilst I'm on...

Does anyone believe that the VAR offical would have sent Beaton to the VAR camera for Celtics penalty if Brendan hadn't criticised the officals interpretation of the rules at swinecastle .


Me either...

 

[Espiritosanto]

There you go not shocked in the slightest!!!

You get the impression that wee prick dermot Gallagher can’t be arsed even speaking about Scottish football,it all seems too tedious for the soup taking prick,,and her way the hair like a mr whippy ice cream wants to shut the fuck up unless she’s got something to bring to the party??be aswell way ma missus oan the panel she also talks gibberish about football….

 

[Magnificent 7]

You get the impression that wee prick dermot Gallagher can’t be arsed even speaking about Scottish football,it all seems too tedious for the soup taking prick,,and her way the hair like a mr whippy ice cream wants to shut the fuck up unless she’s got something to bring to the party??be aswell way ma missus oan the panel she also talks gibberish about football….

Spot on....I did say to myself I won't be watching this shite again.

 

[Winter]

Now that the dust has settled I see the narrative is that we were heavy thumped 3 -3. Disappointed that we didn't bring on a defender , say Ralston when idah scored 87th minute.
The fact we lost 3-3 was disappointing though I and I'm pretty sure many others would've settled for a point beforehand.
The " moral victory " takes deludamol to new heights.
We were great first half and though we ultimately were hammered 3 each , we had more shots at goal , more shots on target at a hate crime incident of a stadium.
No denying that matondos goal was a peach , their other two was a deflection and penalty our two were really good goals and once again we exploited their two CBs again both goals from open play were through the middle.
Once we got the penalty no bookies in the world would've taken bets on them getting one as well.

Da Silva makes Cantwell look like a fair and honest player even the zombies were raging with his behaviour ...until that behaviour won them a penalty.
Da Silva has more rolls than greggs and I've no doubt he'll win a bafta for that performance, Tom Daley won gold for similar.

Great vision from Celtic to loan Dundee waterproof coverings for their mudbath pitch so therangers game will go ahead and I think that game will have taken a lot out of them , I can see them dropping points on the road , and that's a long road they have to navigate away from the hate crime stadium.
Maeda once again showed that tavpen is no defender and he and kyogo terrorised their defense and buttland first half.
Aye its disappointing not to take 3 pts but I do take confidence from the many rookies we had in this fixture and that cauldron of hate.
We may have gotten a penalty but we got very little else. The fact that they are claiming a moral victory is laughable to the extent its embarrassing.
1 pt from 9 is a victory , I'll take that every season , they can have moral victories and we'll have just old fashioned plain and dull victories that come with 3pts.

Disappointment at not winning from 87th minute doesn't dilute my pride in the bhoys for once again going to that bile pit and coming away undefeated , oops defeated 3-3.
The bhoys can take confidence from the result despite the disappointment of the draw. I do , I have faith in this side that's been chopped and changed so many times over the season now, so much so that if when Rodgers delivers the title it'll surely be the sweetest one for many a year.



Stats don't show the true nature of a game but a Celtic side once more not at full strength have gone and done the business at Mordor.
The fouls stats is an interesting one as it certainly doesn't reflect the facts that we were consistently fouled with no punishment whilst Kuhn was booked for tapping someone on the shoulder.

Keep the faith bhoys and ghirls we're still on the way to the title and with calmac back fit enough to play 100 minutes of football plus injury time it's there for the taking and take it we must.
I've no real concerns about us beating them at CP but we have to face others who are fighting for different things , win those games and the rest takes care of itself.
Their last 6 games they've beaten hibs twice lost at home to Motherwell and Benfica , drawn with Benfica and Celtic.
Our last 6 we've lost 1 drawn 1 , away to hearts and we all know how that transpired and yesterday's draw.
My point ? Despite what we're hearing in SMSM we are the form side not them I'm confident our mix n match team will see this out and deliver the sweetest of titles while they claim a moral 2nd place victory HH